Welcome to the In Reality podcast, which covers all things Augmented & Virtual Reality. In Reality will feature industry news, commentary, and perspective from AR/VR veterans and experts.

Since this is our first show ever, let’s get some introductions out of the way. In Reality is co-hosted by Marxent’s Joe Johnson and Joe Bardi. Johnson is the Creative Director at Marxent, and has been in the AR/VR industry for four and a half years following a stint on Microsoft’s Office UX team. Bardi is Marxent’s Senior Content Strategist, and has been in the industry for about a year, after having spent more than a decade in print and TV media.

The Joes are all about the hardware for their first show. From the rise and seeming fall of Magic Leap, the shadowy but promising AR startup with billions in funding, to a hot rumor about the Hololens, the self-contained Augmented Reality headset produced by a little-known outfit from Redmond, Washington: Microsoft.

Listen below, and please let us know what you think. We’ll be back in two weeks for another installment of In Reality.